‘Gay inherits from
gay.’
(Monika Adamowska, ‘Duży Format’ - Gazeta Wyborcza, 14
marca 2010 r.)
Piotr brought a complaint against Poland at the ECHR
for being evicted from the municipal flat, which his
deceased partner had been renting. Delivered on March
2nd, 2010, the judgment of the Strasbourg Court affirmed
that the State is under obligation to acknowledge
various forms of family life.
I was afraid.
Of what? Publicity?
Yes. I was afraid that the press would get involved and
they wouldn’t let me live. That everyone would know.
Both at work and at home.
You got all the way to Strasbourg and you won - it was
obvious it would hit the headlines.
It actually hadn’t crossed my mind at that time that it
might get to Strasbourg. I simply thought the judge
would say it’s this or that way and that I’d finally get
a verdict. But instead the case was moved from one court
to another.
At the very beginning even in the court you would not
say you were a couple, would you?
Well, I simply felt embarrassed. At that time, in 1998,
you would not say that kind of thing openly, at least
not here in Poland. What I mean is, that in Poland
people are still against this sort of relationships,
even now. I didn’t want to talk about it.
How long had you been together?
Since 1987. I met Tadeusz through fellow sailors. They
invited me to have vodka together and Tadeusz turned up
as well. At that time I was working as waiter in some
fancy restaurants in Szczecin. At that moment in
‘Ryska’. He was a taxi driver. And that’s how it all had
started but I’d rather leave this topic. We fell for
each other immediately and that’s it.
At first we lived at Niedziałkowskiego Street, in the
city centre. We had a big flat and later, when we
exchanged it, we got a few pennies swapping it. Then we
moved here - to a 32m flat where I live up today. It was
a single room and a huge kitchen. It wasn’t until
recently that I remade it into a small kitchen and two
rooms.
So you did not have enough money to live in a big flat,
did you?
In the communist times one would always find work in
restaurant business, either as a waiter or in the
kitchen. In the 90s, however, it changed for worse.
Restaurants became leased and were kind of different.
And I have always worked in elegant places. I was at a
loss then.
There were also Germans coming to Szczecin. Well, I
should rather say Poles that had emigrated in the 80s.
They were drinking, rocking in pubs and discos. When
they were left with 20 DM they would say: “it’s your
tip”. 20 DM - can you imagine? That was loads of money
after all! But Tadeusz would take these 20 DM and would
guzzle them. Soon he had to give up taxi driving.
I can’t say I didn’t drink, cause I did and I liked to
have fun. I admit we did drink together. But you know
some people are susceptible to addictions others aren’t.
Tadek was.
I would tell him over and over again: pull yourself
together. In vain. Finally he ended up having no job and
I had enough of it. I think it was 1993 when I first
went to Germany, to do some seasonal work for 3 months.
We would live by such jobs eventually.
Whenever I came back from Germany, the flat was in a
mess. Everything was neglected and unkept. Debts.
Tadeusz invited his vodka-buddies. Whenever I came back
I had to settle these debts, the rent and go back to
work. He would take things away from the flat and sell
them. He was terribly neglected. We started fighting and
I even applied for a different flat but in the end it
would somehow carry on this way. I mean, I was working
in Germany and he was drinking.
The drinking killed him. He died of liver cirrhosis. He
was 59 just as I’m now. It happened when I was in
Germany. A friend of mine called and said that Tadeusz
had died on the April 1st, I could not believe it.
Who buried him?
His family buried him somewhere - I was told by a
friend. Tadeusz was not in touch with them whatsoever -
they came literally out of the blue. I came back to
Poland a couple of days after his funeral. They did not
even come to collect his things and I didn’t have their
telephone number.
You remain so calm while saying this…
He was a very intelligent man. Witted, well-lettered and
a good mixer. But the truth is that, especially when
drunk he caused a lot of suffering to me. You know,
sometimes even deep feelings wear off.
Tadeusz collected some antiques. He had like 20 old
clocks. He would buy them and then have them renovated.
They all hung on these walls. The most interesting one
was the table with an octagonal crystal tabletop. Truly
beautiful. Once we had a fight over it. I came back home
and it was missing so I asked where it was. He replied
he had pawned it for 300 PLN. You idiot! Let's go and
pick up - I shouted at him. We rushed to this man, but
the table had already been gone.
Tadeusz went stupid because of that drinking. He
destroyed the flat so when he died I had to renovate
everything. I went to ask to succeed Tadeusz as a tenant
but I did not say we were a couple. The times were such
that the topic was a taboo. I simply said I had been
registered as a resident since 1987. First, they said I
might try an acquisitive prescription. I started
renovating the flat and threw the old heating oven away.
I went to the power-house, the gas-works and settled the
bills again. To do so I needed a piece of paper saying I
was registered as a resident. I got it. It was May 1998.
Later this piece of paper would save me.
One day in June some friends dropped in and we drank
some vodka. The next morning I heard pounding on the
door. I opened and saw a whole crowd of guards and
clerks. They showed me a paper saying I needed to leave
the flat on March. Fortunately, I had that piece of
paper confirming my residential status. But I simply did
not recall it that day. I was surprised. They put my
belongings and furniture out of the flat straightaway
and said they would leave them in some warehouse and
when I’d find a new flat I might pick them up.
I asked that they leave them. I wanted to handle it
myself and take it somewhere. Some stuff was lost: some
perfumes from Germany and even a new plastic galley.
Media gave a detailed account of your protest and a
hunger strike in front of your house.
I went to the press and to television, to tell them my
story, how I was unfairly kicked out of my house. I
didn’t say that Tadeusz and myself we were a couple. If
I said so, I guess no one would help me. People would
make fun of me, that two faggots lived together, and
than I would be kicked out even faster. And the way I
did it I got help from labor union “Kontra”. Even
“Młodzież Wszechpolska” helped me. They carried banners
against my eviction, they wanted to chain themselves to
my door handle as a sign of protest. To be honest, they
helped me a lot. Probably today they must to kick
themselves that they were defending a gay. I was on a
hunger strike for almost two weeks, drinking only water.
My furniture, cupboards, sofa – everything was outside.
At night or during the rainstorm I was putting the sofa
inside the stairwell. When the officials came to kick me
out, the TV wanted to film the whole situation and
suddenly the officials withdrew. Although I was very
weak, I didn’t want to go to the hospital. I knew that
if I had gone, there would be nothing left to come back
to. In the end I went with the journalists to the
Housing Department of the Municipal Council. There we
reached a compromise, that until the court does not
solve the problem I may stay in the flat.
For a long time I did not tell anyone, what the whole
thing was about, I mean, that me and Tadeusz, we were a
couple. In front of the court I had to admit that fact.
In one word I was done for. Even today it is a huge
problem to admit that you are gay or lesbian. There is
plenty of people who have problem with it. I don’t care
who is who. They do. For them I am weird, for me heteros
are weird. Still, despite admitting I was gay, I was
loosing all my cases in court.
Did your family know?
My family is very religious. My mother is a religious
fanatic. Father Rydzyk is the holy of the holiest for
her. She has had a hard life. Four kids in a tiny flat.
My stepfather – a terrible man. Me either, I wans‘t very
kind and polite. As a 10-year old boy I ended up in an
orphanage. All the orphanages should be closed…many
times I was thinking, would I be a homosexual if not for
what I experienced from the older boys. But there is no
point to think about it anymore…
I wanted to be normal. I even got married, but the
marriage broke down very fast. Than I moved to Szczecin.
My mother does not know who I am, and she will never
find out. She would not understand that. My brother,
sister, brother in law – they all know. They are
intelligent people. They would always help me. That
conscious was the biggest blessing during all the
difficult times.
You and Tadeusz did not think to draw up a will?
We often had this conversation that if things come to
that I am left with nothing. But he was young. I didn’t
expect that he could die. Well-built, healthy man. Only,
he was drinking.
One day my attorney called me to say that the case is
going to Strasbourg. And we won. My attorney Arkadiusz
Byliński called me and said that now the media would
probably stalk me. That I have to be ready for this. I
didn’t know that the media would bring it all up all
with my name….
You are crying….
……
Are you afraid?
Sure….
Why didn’t you look for support in the gay community
during the trial and now?
I didn’t want to come out with my homosexuality. It just
happened, without my knowledge. I thought it would not
go out in the air. I thought that only me, my attorney
and the Housing Department would know about the
Strasbourg sentence.
Now, for sure people will comment on this. Intolerant
people will attack me. I will be sick of journalists.
My friend Stachu called me after reading the article and
said: “You are the bloody boss, let them know, that
every person may live the way he wants to”. Stachu and
his wife knew for a long time. They are cool, smart
people.
Did you have any unpleasant experiences till now?
Not yet, but I expect it ….I will have to make fun of it
or what? To feel offended… no, it does not make any
sense. I think I’ll make fun of it…..
I’d rather not tell where I work. When I was going there
after the sentence I was only thinking, what they would
come up with? What they are gonna say? Will they ask:
“oh, so you did won, you gay?“. Normally I am calm but
sometimes people are so cruel. I hope in the couple of
weeks they will forget about me.
I am surprised. Finally Europe gives us signs, how the
tolerance looks like. The law should change. Maybe I’ve
played a part in it? I want them to know, that people
can be different. For thousands of years. Good, that it
is coming to an end. Twelve years I have been waiting:
what would happen to me? I have renovated windows and
doors because the gaps between them were so big, that
during the winter I was freezing. I only wait with the
bathroom. It was not a life, only the trudge with the
attorney around the courts. Twelve years of uncertainty
can fuck you up.
Translation: Magdalena Krzysztoporska and Joanna Bąk,
interns at the Helsinki Foundation for Human Rights,
Warsaw Poland.
Published with the consent
of Duży Format (special reporters' edition of Gazeta
Wyborcza)